During RSA Week 2025, I interviewed Phil Venables, a prominent figure in security who previously served as CISO at Google Cloud and Goldman Sachs, and is now at Ballistic Ventures. We explored various essential topics in security management, including scaling security measures from artisanal to industrial processes, emphasizing the challenges of managing dependencies across systems. Venables highlighted the importance of shifting from lagging to leading indicators, where metrics like reproducible builds can enhance both security and operational efficiency. He also introduced the concept of “shifting down,” advocating for integrating security measures into existing platforms and frameworks. The conversation touched on the transformative role of AI in security, showcasing its application in malware analysis and automating workflows. Venables emphasized the need for organizations to proactively engage with AI, encourage experimentation, and collaborate in the community to foster a safer digital landscape. For deeper insights, the full video is available on YouTube.
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Shifting Focus: 4 Innovative Ways Google Leverages AI for Enhanced Security (Featuring Phil Venables)
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